Kos, Others Terrified To Even Discuss 911

Recently posted on Kos, this diary drew 157 comments, mostly red herrings, in 15 minutes. The writer was blocked from responding to the attacks and diary rights were revoked. You judge from the comments whether you think NSA/CIA might be camped out there to discredit such discussion.

Note: This site holds no official position on any conspiracy theories but only encourages due consideration.

Original Kos Story

Big Names Give Credibility To 911 Truth Movement--
Bring Rise To NSA Disinformation
by Trnscndr
Fri May 26, 2006 at 08:43:40 AM PDT

Recent releases of films dealing with theories of US government involvement at such places as Deniro's Tribeca Film Festival, are finally getting taken seriously by a mainstream audience. The knee jerk reaction has been so far, to push such theorists into the closet with UFO abductees. Now, the See No Evil crowd is opening their eyes, unafraid to consider the mounting evidence.

Diary :: ::

I have only recently myself begun to open up to these theories. But with the leading scientists backing these theories, it's hard not to listen and look. When the architects that designed the WTC say it's impossible, I ask who more qualified?

Demolition experts, intelligence insiders and common sense, equivalent to the resistance to the JFK "magic bullet theory" in the Warren Commission, are lining up to shake their heads.

However, NSA and CIA operatives are also standing in line with the largest disinformation squad ever assembled. If there is a coverup, agents are on the net doing their best to discredit 911 "Truth-tellers". Recently, I was on a liberal forum and mentioned the possibility of government involvement and within minutes, other users were attacking me as if I had suggested Santa and Satan were the same person because one is a scrambled spelling of the other.

Even if the government did not do it, intentionally allow it, or even cover it up, their denials will be professional and intense. The NSA has nine times more employees than the CIA and the FBI, MIA and a long list of unofficial agents working for the State Department are there for one reason, to provide disinformation to discredit the truth.

I don't propose someone just do a poll and believe what the majority comes up with. The majority don't read newspapers. Those that do, read one only. They get their news from Fox and CNN, if at all. Most haven't read a book since one was assigned in high school, and even then they got Cliff's notes.

They simply don't have the mental capacity to process the information. Yes, it is dense science but not science fiction. If the truth doesn't match optimism, it is painful. However, these actions by a government of the people cannot be ignored. We Americans must go to sources other than Disney for their revelations. They must watch something other than "Nightmare On Elm Street:Part 99" to get a reality check from time to time.

Have we become so conditioned that everything seems to be fiction or nonsense, jut because most is?

If you want to see a few of the more notable documentary films questioning the official 911 explanation, go to
Duly Consider (That's here) or any of the many sites offering such fair consideration.

Why We Fight (2006) Complete

This is the complete documentary film, Why We Fight.

What are the forces that shape and propel American militarism? This award-winning film provides an inside look at the anatomy of the American war machine.

Is American foreign policy dominated by the idea of military supremacy? Has the military become too important in American life?

Is the US government in the business of encouraging war around the world, just to sell arms?

This goes back to once General, President Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex.

Gore on the Today Show, 5/24/2006

Katie discusses the release of his new film and his current growing position in the public eye.
If difficulty go to following link and search "Gore" on the Today tab, http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g
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If Al Gore Were President - SNL 5/2006 HUMOR

Al Gore is becoming a beloved figure very quickly. His movie, "Inconvenient Truth" is going to be a documentary blockbuster (trailer on this site). The Spike Jonze documentary-2000(Complete on this site) portrays him as very smooth and likeable.

He hasn't even announced but there is already a huge groundswell to draft him. Most superficially assume he is used goods, but they forget Reagan and Nixon both lost once before coming back and winning in landslides. Most don't account for the reminiscence factor and the anger within those that felt slighted the first time. Also, many who didn't vote the first time, realize from the closeness of the race that they could have made a difference had they voted.

Hillary is slipping and frankly she doesn't yet do well with male voters at all in either party. She is no Bill Clinton. Russ Feingold is doing extremely well at the moment and is revered for his courage in standing up for his principles, a rarity in DC nowadays.

It is clear that with Gore or Feingold on the either side of the ticket, that the Dems have honesty and forthrightness in their corner and a fair geographic balance if they join forces.

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This is the famous sketch from SNL where Gore proved a straight face is funny! Enjoy!

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Bush - Zionist, Anti-Christ, The Beast? No, Just A Businessman

Photo from article originally

posted in Seattle Weekly

I don't think Bush is a Zionist, so are many just being bated for a red herring? He obviously supports Zionists, but that's because it is the thing that will anger the Muslims the most. He also has supported Muslims; He has their royal leaders sleeping in the Whitehouse regularly. The US put Saddam in power and then vilified him.

Most people just don't get it; the RRW doesn't want peace especially in the Middle East as that would reduce arms sales and consulting contracts for war. The war machine makes money by SELLING more weapons, which THEY buy. They don’t want to reduce crime domestically as that would reduce the need for police and prisons, which are very big business.

I believe religions are just pawns for the real power brokers, the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). Even President Eisenhower (a retired General) warned us of the growth of the MIC. I don't care about the Trilateral Commission, though they do exist as a group of world leaders that network. Check it out; they have an office in New York. I know nothing about Illuminati, though the Masons, on the other hand, openly proclaim that they produce more world leaders than any organization.

The deception is, they don’t need secret organizations; they are the governments themselves. Again, many religions and many of those who call themselves Christians, (Pat Roberson…) have become pawns and these impressionable people are vulnerable to messages of hate and fear mongering.

Most self-proclaimed Christians are just going to church to network for profit. Look at it in your local church. People hand out business cards, sell cars, insurance, etc. This is the thing Jesus abhorred most as evidenced by his trashing the synagogue and rebuking the sellers in God's house. Bush is one of these.

And, yes, maybe Bush would best be theorized as the Beast and not the Anti-Christ, as he now exercises technology in such a way that all have a "number on their forehead", IPs, SocSec, DLic, telephone... These numbers are what make us easy to track and control. Beware! Once they have everyone using plastic and all the money is in the banks and you have no way of being secretly liquid; they've got you. I like to barter, so freeing.

It is amazing that people find it so hard to believe or they JUST DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE, that their leaders, both of religions and governments, could ever consider, killing, deceiving and controlling. Well, that's what they do, and what better name to do it in than God? They justify imprisonment of sinners (terrorists) in secret prisons (much like Hitler had death camps in Poland), the mass killing of other religions, the Death penalty, while opposing birth control and abortion as having unwanted babies keeps women powerless and penniless, pumpin gout new soldiers.

There is a way to bastardize any bible for any purpose.Why are we surprised when, throughout history, the church has been used to perpetrate the worst atrocities; the inquisition, etc.?"

"Onward Christian Soldiers" was written for that purpose to justify Christians to follow warmongers. It's simple but effective propaganda. A Christian might best say, "Despite our being saved we may still be drawn back into sin."

Conspiracy Poll - Check all that apply

Free polls from Pollhost.com

Have your beliefs changed after seeing any of the documentaries on this site?

Moon mission was a government conspiracy to beat the Russians - Cold War No government conspiracy regarding the moon missions US government either created, covered up, or allowed the 911 attacks No government conspiracy involving the 911 attacks - Bin Laden Forces acted alone Republican Democrat Libertarian Independent Other Party

Truth About Moon Landing - Hoax? Conspiracy?

This footage has been found, true source unknown, but in pixel investigation it appears to be real. Quite an expensive hoax for a joker, if it is fake. You be the judge! It appears to be consistent with findings of a serious Fox documentary a few years back, also on this site in its entirety.

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W - Targeted To Be Puppet For The Republican Right Wing Neo Fascists?

Origininally posted on The Daily Kos
George Bush Pre-senile Dementia Video - Watch & Download
by ChicagoBruce
Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 10:48:45 PM PDT
(From the diaries -- kos)

This is the footage that started the story that first appeared in the Atlantic - George Bush from ten years ago - dramatically different than the Bush you're used to.

The big story - "a striking decline in his sentence-by-sentence speaking skills." The reason? One doctor says "presenile dementia" a catch-all term for earlier-than-normal cognitive declines (probably "dry-drunk syndrome"). This video intercuts footage from 10 years ago with recent footage - the difference is dramatic and disturbing. And obvious.

This is very disturbing and by no means is meant for humor. Condolences to his family for what appears to be a kidnapping of his soul and a hijacking of the Presidency by evil conpirators in the background. If it is just an act, he deserves an Oscar. If it isn't, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are truly the devils for using the President in this vulnerable state.
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An Inconvenient Truth--Trailer

Here it is. Gore's long awaited "An Inconvenient Truth". This puts to rest any doubts that glaobal warming is real. It will open in theatres soon: Release Date: May 24, 2006 (limited).

Could this be a kickoff for a Gore 2008 Presidential run?

Al Gore Really Is Human!

Unseen Al Gore Campaign video
DNC/Spike Jonze 13 min 12 sec - Jan 1, 2005

Al Gore's Unseen 2000 Video, Behind-the-Scenes
Living Proof that he and his family are the real thing. Somehow, this was not up to par for the "consultants" that ran his campaign. Who could watch this and not know this man was "Presidential Material"?

NSA Data Collection Not To Be Taken Lightly

You know, I actually believe most people at the NSA are straight arrows and good citizens and some are blowing the whistle later today about their refusal to allow such programs to remain secret.

The big problem is, that though they may be good people, the people that have access to this data and the patterns that can be established from such massive data collection (TRILLIONS OF CALLS SO FAR). Even the least 'technology savvy' know the algorithms that can be used in combination with this data to determine with great accuracy, one's sexual preference, religion, political affiliations, wealth and race. It's amazing and scary.

The Republican Right Wing has in the past used such data analysis to create lists for people to be denied their right to vote. And we all know, once it happens, it's too late. When was the last successful challenge of this practice? There is someone out there by the name, John Smith, who is a felon, thus has not the right to ever vote again. Any state elections board, armed with these lists of clearly common names, can selectively remove people from the roles who would most likely vote Dem. They can determine someone is black, put them on a list of blacks, likely DEMs, cross reference that with felon lists (Gladly provided by Texas to Florida in the 2000 elections) and OILA, they get removed from the roles for having the same name; guilty til proven innocent.

It has already happened and no doubt the RNC is not above such dirty tricks in future elections. I'm no statistician, but I have throughly researched these already common data harvesting techniques and the things that can be derived from the data. No one would question this capability. And, when it comes to dirty politics, if it CAN be done, it WILL be done. This data stream needs to stop immediately, and the NSA records need to be audited and destroyed/espunged.

Leading Questions, Misquoting, Misinterpreting Polls--Age Old News Problem

You know, when I was a writer at a well known TV news org. that pre-existed Fox, we had a huge inside fight over the following.

A poll was run asking who people would vote for in a Reagan v. Hart election. The poll included "undecided". Results were that neither had a majority of the vote. Obvious Reagan supporters in our newsroom won the fight by reporting "If an election were held today, Reagan would win."

Those of us with truth-the liberal bias, on our side, said just report the results without such false misinterpretation. Fact, there are no undecided voters allowed in a real election. Reagans lead was 2 percent in this poll (+/- me) and the way it was ultimately reported was clearly a lie, as is the case in every similar opportunity at Fox News today.

It is dangerous and misleading and should be illegal. News has the ability to make these things into self-fullfilling prophecies. And at the moment the prophecies facing us are listed in Revleations.

US Has Spied On Its Citizens For Years...While Ignoring Many Real Enemies

The NSA, FBI and CIA have been doing this sort of thing as long as they've been in existence. In 1984 while I wrote at CNN, the NSA regularly threatened people about what could be reported. And they ignored knowledge that certain Republicans had loose lips about our missile testing. We were simply told not to report them in the name of National Security. The only way we knew we were being spied on by the NSA was that we would receive a call from time to time, and how else would they have known but by spying on our computers, phone calls or possibly inside agents?

In one such case a Republican Senator at a Washington party divulged… okay, he was bragging about, false missile bursts in Leavenworth that indicated Soviet technology wasn’t what we feared. In fact, according to him, we had on several occasions performed such tests that were designed to see if the Soviets would scramble jets in preparation for missile attack. Apparently, if detected, they would have thought missiles were only minutes away. In most cases they didn’t even notice until our missiles would have landed.

This was clearly sensitive information that at the time needed to remain classified. In other cases we were told not to report things that were simply politically embarrassing. Usually, we ignored these warnings.

FDR ordered similar things too, but with current technology, they are literally harvesting millions of emails and telephone conversations, filtering them for words like "I oppose the war" then putting people on lists. Below is an interesting read of similar things in our nation’s domestic spying history.

History of Domestic Surveillance

Fox News: The Most Trusted News Source In America?

Who's the most trusted poll?

They all suck. Twenty years ago, we polled two equal groups. We asked one "Do you agree with the ERA? The Other we asked, "Do you agree with the following statement: Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex. The results were opposite.

The first 65% opposed the ERA; The second 65% favored the statement. (For those that still don't get it, they are one in the same.)

Most Americans are functionally illiterate; they don't know where Iraq is on a map, nor can they distinguish Washington from NYC. Do you really think they know what the difference between "trust", "believe" and "choose to watch".

Hell, I choose to eat McDonald's hamburgers more often than Fuddruckers; I guess that means I like them better?

All we like sheep have gone astray... Fox has better marketing than PBS. I don't know anyone that would, after watching both O'Reilly and NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, suggest that Fox is more trustworthy, if they knew the meaning of the word.

I guess it really does go to the core of what most people misconsider as "trust".

Is it "trust" when someone says "I trusted you to do" what I expected or wanted? Or is this "control"?

If you trust your significant other, it is unconditional. You don't say, "I trust you not to have affairs." You just "trust". It's kind of like praying to God to do something specific for you, presuming (a hypothetical, all-knowing) God wouldn't know what to do without your instructions.

For most their use of the word, is aligned with expectations of something other than one's "trustworthiness", but instead their obedience or allegiance. Our founding fathers understood this well, bright men. They suggested an unconditional "In God We Trust" while proclaiming allegiance to the flag.

The problem is, people have no idea what the things they are saying "mean". And without this semantic knowledge, how can one say what they mean, and mean what they say. (My definition of "integrity".)

America's supreme court made a huge mistake in adopting the standard of "Absence of Malice" as applied to journalism. Prior to that, the "Zenger"/Truth defense was the standard. These were the days of fact checkers and honorable journalists. Now, we have "spin doctors" and lawyers checking whether or not something can avoid a lawsuit rather than whether or not it is true. "Trust", no longer; profitable position is the current standard for today's editors.

They Know It's A War; Why Don't We?

Am I becoming schizophrenic, totally losing my sense of reality or do we, in fact, have invaders of the US suggesting that US lawmakers work for them as they demand rights? Can you imagine during the cold war, if 11-Million Russian troops had successfully snuck into the US, began taking jobs from Americans, lowering the income and selling drugs to our youth? Then turning around and protesting that the US government is abusing them for not giving them the same rights as US citizens and legal immigrants.

Randall van der Woning

Let's get this clear, legal immigrants are welcome. We invited them to the party. Illegal ones are criminals, an invading force making life difficult for working Americans and those here legally. It is organized, supported by a foreign government, Mexico primarily, and it is a war. Many of them are killing Americans and others are committing crime at a disproportionate rate to the remainder of the public. Meanwhile, they are lying by saying they are paying their way. They're not. The pay $7-billion/year in taxes while costing the government $50-million/year in services. Meanwhile, we spend an additional $50-thousand/year per prisoner to keep them in our jails. They account for 20% of the total prison population in America. Public education for example suffers a "dumbing down" that ripples across the whole system. As we slow down whole classes to wait for non-English speakers, we forever lose learning opportunity for English speaking US citizens. They don't get this time back. It's gone.

I taught English in LA inner-city schools, and learned first-hand the real reason public education is failing. It is because 30% of LA's student population, illegal immigrants, are demanding content education in Spanish and getting it. There are limited resources, so whatever is spent to accommodate them causes the rest to suffer. I know beyond a doubt, America would have no deficit in public educational performance if not for this hidden statistic. They have bankrupted the LAUSD and are working on the whole state. Hospitals have closed all along the borders for the same reason. Now, the same thing is happening well-inland in Atlanta, Chicago and others.

We cannot continue to equate these illegals with legal immigrants. They are not in the same boat. They are in opposition. I have always favored increasing legal immigration but this is impossible if the government grants amnesty to those who broke in line. I feel in my heart for their suffering in their home countries, but we can't be responsible. We must hold those governments responsible for taking care of their own citizens if the alternative is, the US must.

It may sound drastic, but maybe our military should be used for defense against direct invasions of our nation. I cannot believe this has been framed as anything other than a war. Soon, I fear, Americans are going to start using their right to bear arms to feed a minuteman movement against these invaders as the official military is withheld. However, I wish our government would peaceably remove them, and prosecute the traitors who hire them for what they are doing, "harboring an enemy."