tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post758896423773113922..comments2023-09-23T09:13:14.458-05:00Comments on Duly Consider: Atheists vs. Agnostics vs. Religionists - Or are they all the same?Editorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03141962520026207726noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-42636465709236762332007-08-24T12:39:00.000-05:002007-08-24T12:39:00.000-05:00The reductio ad absurdum of Intelligent Design is ...The reductio ad absurdum of Intelligent Design is this: Those who purport that complexity entails an intelligent designer are forced to confront this gambit: Either (1) "God" created everything that exists; "God" did not create Himself/Herself/Itself; and, therefore, "God" is not something that exists OR (2) "God," being of sufficient complexity and intelligence to have created simpler, less Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-42246606616046685122007-08-17T07:46:00.000-05:002007-08-17T07:46:00.000-05:00The question is posed as a rebuttal to theists who...The question is posed as a rebuttal to theists who say that the universe must have been created by someone/something, in order to try to get theists to think "why is God needed?"Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-80991002233890636422007-08-16T23:51:00.000-05:002007-08-16T23:51:00.000-05:00Good point, Cosmogenes. It clearly was an argument...Good point, Cosmogenes. It clearly was an argument whose success was based on the suppression of relevant facts of current science. It seemed as if the structure of their argument was:<BR/><BR/>Some things once considered as scientific fact were indeed wrong, therefore science today is all wrong.<BR/><BR/>This is severely flawed, as all scientists know the difference between theory and fact. Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141962520026207726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-37229822453015349132007-08-16T22:46:00.000-05:002007-08-16T22:46:00.000-05:00The video about the end of atheism is nothing bu...The video about the end of atheism is nothing but baseless propaganda. <BR/><BR/>- First it begins by confusing Communism, a political ideaology, and Darwin's theory of evolution, a scientific explanation of a natural phenomenon perfectly acceptable by e.g. the Roman Catholic Church, with "atheism". <BR/><BR/>Then it continues with a presentation of the obsolete "Big Bang" and "Anthropic Cosmogeneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15255446427779541191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-71281872840717270662007-08-16T21:15:00.000-05:002007-08-16T21:15:00.000-05:00I wrote a rebuttal to this. Duly Consider removed...I wrote a rebuttal to this. Duly Consider removed my last post that linked it I believe.<BR/>It is not SPAM but a sincere criticism of the false premises presented by Duly Consider.<BR/><A HREF="http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/2007/08/criticalflawed-thinker-out-to-lunch.html" REL="nofollow">Here is again</A>. I'll be very disappointed if he deletes this comment too.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-42556012040840881062007-08-16T16:31:00.000-05:002007-08-16T16:31:00.000-05:00To BEAJ:I had the same concern. Critical thinking...To BEAJ:<BR/><BR/>I had the same concern. Critical thinking (vs. the merely judgemental) would imply some sense of proportion. I think this article was devoid of such. Even worse, it serves to create confusion and uncertainty in much the same way as cigarette companies befuddled the public about tobacco products and cancer or hired guns for the oil and coal companies are now attempting to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-12940354560488831572007-08-16T15:22:00.000-05:002007-08-16T15:22:00.000-05:00This was actually a thoughtful, well-written artic...This was actually a thoughtful, well-written article. Of course, atheists are always ready to defend their relentless criticism and open hostility towards anything remotely religious, but doesn't this intolerance put them in the same camp as those people they criticize. How are we to find peace if we can't find commonality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-59792674113669535722007-08-16T15:20:00.000-05:002007-08-16T15:20:00.000-05:00This was a very well balanced piece and tied in se...This was a very well balanced piece and tied in several socio-historical factors to round it out.<BR/><BR/>It amazes me to hear the Atheists in particular react in such a semantic, knitpicking fashion as I thought you were rather fair to them.<BR/><BR/>It seems that any comparison of the argumentative, confronational style of religious extremists to atheists, is met with insult. <BR/><BR/>As one Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-18234981849289732282007-08-16T15:15:00.000-05:002007-08-16T15:15:00.000-05:00Organized religion divides people into holy camps-...Organized religion divides people into holy camps-"My God can beat up your God"--<BR/>Shutter the churches for ten years-lets all take a deep breath. Hold on to your donation,life will be richer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-7957163184839056762007-08-16T14:19:00.000-05:002007-08-16T14:19:00.000-05:00I have only recently found my way onto this sight,...I have only recently found my way onto this sight, and I am not quite sure why I did. I read the article and did find it cohesive and fact driven yet, in my humble opinion, somewhat misdirected. <BR/>The truth is what we are all truly inspired to find and adopt. It really doesn't matter what we humans call ourselves, whether athiest, religious, or agnostic, for the truth remains steadfast Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-61892403772486224952007-08-16T14:07:00.000-05:002007-08-16T14:07:00.000-05:00I believe it was Harry Truman who said, "If you ca...I believe it was Harry Truman who said, "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen." A self-professed "critical thinker" and editor would do well to heed his words.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, Dear Editor, you appear somewhat thin-skinned for one with such a public voice and forum. <BR/><BR/>Despite your attempt to downplay the iconoclastic "loner" role of many atheists (see Freud, Marx,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-51331660781683704582007-08-16T11:31:00.000-05:002007-08-16T11:31:00.000-05:00It has become a sad world, as our Christian popula...It has become a sad world, as our Christian population is allowed to control so much of our world. Isn't there separation of state and religion? My opionion is, if religion has a play in politics, then they should pay taxes. We have not always had religious freedom. Our country started out with CHRISTIAN freedom. The Christians have oppressed all other religions since their beginning. It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-66674840126051905112007-08-16T10:21:00.000-05:002007-08-16T10:21:00.000-05:00It is interesting that many Atheists defend themse...It is interesting that many Atheists defend themselves with the statement that they are non-confrontational, or basically "loners" yet they have huge cyber congregations and at this moment, two of the best selling authors are Dawkins and Hitchens, who serve as their spokesmen. The result is that they stand together as soldiers, no different than religionists. I say this, while separating AtheistsEditorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141962520026207726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-61240300016249802402007-08-16T09:47:00.000-05:002007-08-16T09:47:00.000-05:00Having read several of Dawkins's books and having ...Having read several of Dawkins's books and having viewed the first episode of THE ENEMIES OF REASON, I must agree with him on several points. As my own mother struggles with the final stages of Parkinson's Disease, I find his comments on religion's negative influence on medical and scientific progress especially poignant. Retarding or outlawing research to combat AIDS, Alzheimer's, and other Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-82462890764112381282007-08-16T08:23:00.000-05:002007-08-16T08:23:00.000-05:00I have to blog about this. Ray, you are correct, ...I have to blog about this. Ray, you are correct, the premises here are almost totally flawed.<BR/>I'm an atheist, and a very vocal one, who realizes the war in Iraq is a cultural one, not a religious one. It is the West against Islam. It was bound to happen. If not Iraq, it would have been somewhere else by now.<BR/>I will blog about this post sometime today.Baconeaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11134934827966299989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23618318.post-72985439419540628912007-08-16T05:04:00.000-05:002007-08-16T05:04:00.000-05:00Your site contains many thought provoking articles...Your site contains many thought provoking articles. However, many of them are based on flawed premise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com